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04/09/2012 01:00 PM House RESOURCES


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*+ HB 295 CLOSING CERTAIN LAND TO MINERAL ENTRY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 295(RES) Out of Committee
+ SB 91 SPORT FISHING GUIDING SERVICES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+= HB 328 OIL AND GAS CORPORATE TAXES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 192 OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION TAX RATES TELECONFERENCED
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              SB 91-SPORT FISHING GUIDING SERVICES                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:35:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  CS  FOR  SENATE  BILL  NO.  91(FIN),  "An  Act  amending  the                                                               
termination date of the licensing  of sport fishing operators and                                                               
sport fishing guides; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:35:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHYAN ELY, Intern, Senator Lesil McGuire, Alaska State                                                                          
Legislature, explained the proposed bill:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     SB [9]1  guarantees the continuation of  the sport fish                                                                    
     guide  licensing  and  reporting  program  as  well  as                                                                    
     provides an effective  date.  SB 91  extends the sunset                                                                    
     date  of  the  program   which  is  already  in  place.                                                                    
     Legislation for this program was  first passed in 2004.                                                                    
     This program has  proven to be beneficial  to the sport                                                                    
     fishing  industry as  well as  resource  managers.   It                                                                    
     requires  licensing  and  regulation of  sport  fishing                                                                    
     operators and  sport fishing  guides and  sport fishing                                                                    
     vessels.  The program has  provided an average of 1,541                                                                    
     sport  fishing   business  licenses  and   1,828  sport                                                                    
     fishing  guide licenses  annually.   Ninety percent  of                                                                    
     the license  holders are Alaska  residents.   The sport                                                                    
     fishing guide industry has taken  more than 2.6 million                                                                    
     clients fishing  from 2005 -  2010, totaling  more than                                                                    
     625,000 guided  fishing trips in Alaska.   Guided sport                                                                    
     fishing  has  become  an   integral  part  of  Alaska's                                                                    
     tourism economy.   In 2007, $1.39 billion  was spent on                                                                    
     licensing  and   stamps,  trip   related  expenditures,                                                                    
     fishing packages,  equipment, and  real estate  use for                                                                    
     the fishing.  This  spending supported more than 15,879                                                                    
     jobs in  Alaska and provided $545.3  million in income.                                                                    
     This  bill  has  provided an  accurate  accounting  for                                                                    
     Alaska's resources which are  being harvested.  Federal                                                                    
     law for  guided halibut  sport fishing  is tied  to the                                                                    
     Alaska  sport fishing  log books  and  failure to  keep                                                                    
     this  program  in  place would  likely  result  in  the                                                                    
     development  of  federal  log book  for  halibut  which                                                                    
     would create duplication of efforts at a later date.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:37:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ELY pointed out that  Alaska was exempt from participation in                                                               
the NOAA  National Saltwater Angler  Registry as a result  of the                                                               
information collected from the guide  license program.  She urged                                                               
support for proposed SB 91.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:38:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked about the function  of the National                                                               
Saltwater Angler Registry, and why Alaska should be exempt.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:38:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ELY  deferred  to  the  Alaska Department  of  Fish  &  Game                                                               
(ADF&G).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:38:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ  asked if the  logbooks were manual  or data                                                               
entry.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ELY  offered her  belief  that  the  logs were  now  entered                                                               
electronically.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  opined  that  previously  there  had  been                                                               
additional cost  for ADF&G to  electronically enter the  log book                                                               
data.   She asked whether there  had been a savings  to the state                                                               
by going to  an electronic system instead of  the previous manual                                                               
entry.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ELY  deferred  to  the  Alaska Department  of  Fish  &  Game                                                               
(ADF&G).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI   observed  that  there   were  licenses                                                               
required  for many  occupations; however,  this industry  did not                                                               
have a licensing board.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. ELY replied that she would research this.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:40:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   DICK,  directing   attention   to  the   sponsor                                                               
statement, asked what was included  in the estimated $650 million                                                               
spent on sport fishing in 2007.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ELY  offered her belief  that it  was general spending.   She                                                               
offered to research the specific spending.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DICK  questioned whether this entire  income would                                                               
disappear without sport fishing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ELY, in  response,  said  that she  would  get  back to  the                                                               
committee if ADF&G was unable to answer the question.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LISA  EVANS,  Assistant  Director,  Division  of  Sport  Fishing,                                                               
Alaska Department of  Fish & Game (ADF&G), stated  that the sport                                                               
fish  guide  licensing program  was  an  important tool  for  the                                                               
management  of   state  fisheries.    She   reported  that  ADF&G                                                               
collected  the  data  and  used  it  extensively  for  regulatory                                                               
options  and  decisions  by  the  International  Pacific  Halibut                                                               
Commission and the North Pacific  Fisheries Management Council to                                                               
maintain the "least  conservative regulatory structure possible."                                                               
She  added that  the  fisheries managers  documented the  harvest                                                               
patterns  within specific  time  frames, and  used  that data  to                                                               
evaluate and  update the ADF&G regulatory  structure for specific                                                               
species  to ensure  maximum opportunity  for fishing.   She  said                                                               
that  the  information  from  the  angler  harvest  logbooks  was                                                               
collected and  used in  decision making.   She gave  examples for                                                               
decisions  made  to the  Kodiak  and  Southeast Alaska  fisheries                                                               
based on logbook information.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANS relayed  that ADF&G had responded to  the concerns from                                                               
the sport fish guides industry  for data turnaround time, however                                                               
there was  still not an electronic  logbook for the guides.   She                                                               
said that  the logbook information  was now scanned,  rather than                                                               
entered manually,  which had significantly improved  the time for                                                               
which the data  was now available, and that this  system would be                                                               
implemented  for  freshwater  data  entry, as  well,  during  the                                                               
upcoming season.  She shared  that the research for an electronic                                                               
system was ongoing.  She estimated  that sport fishing was a $1.4                                                               
billion industry in  Alaska in 2007, which  included trip related                                                               
expenditures  such  as  airfare, lodging,  equipment,  and  guide                                                               
services.   She declared that  the proposed bill was  a necessary                                                               
fisheries management tool.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:45:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  inquired  whether the  funds  that  were                                                               
raised  through  the program  generated  a  sufficient amount  of                                                               
income.  She  asked for an explanation of  the National Saltwater                                                               
Angler  Registry  program,  and   the  reason  for  the  proposed                                                               
exemption.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANS replied that there  was a $400,000 fiscal note attached                                                               
to  proposed SB  91.   She  reported that  the program  generated                                                               
about $250,000  in receipts, with  the balance paid by  the ADF&G                                                               
sport  fish  license sales.    She  explained that  the  National                                                               
Saltwater  Angler  Registry  program  was a  new  NOAA  (National                                                               
Oceanic  and   Atmospheric  Administration)  program   which  now                                                               
required a saltwater fishing license  for harvest data collection                                                               
for  saltwater sport  fisheries.   She  relayed  that Alaska  had                                                               
received  an exemption  from  this NOAA  program  because of  its                                                               
existing statewide harvest survey and the guide logbook program.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  asked  to  clarify  that,  as  the  NOAA                                                               
registry  was  mainly  for data  collection  and  Alaska  already                                                               
collected  this  data,  Alaska  could be  exempt  from  the  NOAA                                                               
registry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANS concurred.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:47:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI asked  why  there was  not  yet a  fully                                                               
electronic log  book system, and  he questioned how  the proposed                                                               
funding would be used to attain this system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANS  replied that the number  of staff on this  program had                                                               
not  been  reduced.    She expressed  the  possibility  for  more                                                               
efficiency  with  implementation  of   the  freshwater  log  book                                                               
system.   She stated that  an electronic program, which  was cost                                                               
effective, had not yet been found.   She relayed that the current                                                               
estimate for an  electronic system was up to $1.25  million.  She                                                               
noted an additional  obstacle, the sport fish  license system was                                                               
not yet completely electronic at point of sale.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE  asked for  a description of  the format  that was                                                               
scanned.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANS  offered her belief that  it was a scanned  copy of the                                                               
actual  logbook  page, and  then  software  read the  sport  fish                                                               
license number, the individual, and  the number of fish released.                                                               
She said that she would get back to the committee to confirm.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE  inquired whether  the department had  looked into                                                               
application software.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EVANS  replied   that  the  department  had   a  small  team                                                               
researching options that had been implemented elsewhere.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE expressed  his agreement that the  data was useful                                                               
and allowed precise quantification of what was being taken.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EVANS, in  response to  Co-Chair Feige,  said that  80 -  85                                                               
percent  of  the public  and  the  sport  fish industry  were  in                                                               
supported of  the guide logbook  program.  She allowed  that some                                                               
had expressed that the program was cumbersome and not essential.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FEIGE asked  if most complaints were for  not wanting to                                                               
participate, or just opposition on a general basis.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANS allowed that it was  cumbersome to fill out the logbook                                                               
while on  the water  with clients  and that  there had  been some                                                               
objection to the $100 annual license fee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI  expressed that  his objection,  from the                                                               
very  beginning,  had  been  regarding   the  necessity  of  this                                                               
program.   Even though he  understood the  value of the  data, he                                                               
did not  like imposing any  additional licensing  requirements on                                                               
sport fish guides.  He questioned  whether there was a better way                                                               
to enforce compliance to collect the necessary information.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:54:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  moved  to   report  CSSB  91(FIN)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.    There  being no  objection,  CSSB  91(FIN)  was                                                               
reported from the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Support Alyeska.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 295
HB295 Background - MO 1121.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 295
Work Draft 2012.04.04.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 295
HB295 Bill Text.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 295
HB295 Sponsor Statement.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 295
HB295 Support Letters.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 295
91 CSSB Verson M.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 91
HB 328 Workdraft Version E.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 328
SB 91_Sponsor Statement.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 91
SB 91 2010 Participation Effort and Harvest in the Sport Fish Business-Guide Licensing and Logbook Programs.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 91
SB 91 SWLogsheet_2012.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 91
SB091CS(FIN)-03-30-12.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 91
SB 91 2012 Freshwater Charter Logbook.pdf HRES 4/9/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 91